conchshell
07-11 11:30 AM
Guys thanks for your appriciation on my recent blog "Power Behind A Flower". Please note that the reason behind this writing is to help our movement and encourage people to fight against injustice. Now the question is what's next??
With a successful flower campaign to USCIS, we must draw our conclusions from this success, and use the outcome to make the San Jose rally a success.
Please note that legal immigrants is a small handful set of people. Just a usual rally/demonstration will not make a dramatic impact. We have learned from the flower campaign that if we use innovative-peaceful ways of demonstrations, and manage Public Relations and Media well, we can be successful once again.
Please think and try to come up with some ideas. I have come up with these four ideas:
1. Project Martin Luther King Jr. as our hero in these rallies: Please understand that local Amrican people better understand about Martin Luther King Jr. andhis idealogy then M.K. Gandhi. My suggestion is that we should include large picture posters of Martin Luther King Jr. with a slogan "We legals too have a dream". We should also take Gandhi's posters. There is a possibility that all Black American organization may lend their support to us.
2. An act that attracts media attention: Please remember the scene from Gandhi movie when protesters led by Gandhi peacefully burned their resident permits in South Africa. To do something similar and show our symbolic protest against USCIS, we can publically burn a Photocopy of our H1B approvals (I-797). Please note that we are not asking people to burn the original I-797 approval but a photocopy of the document. This will send a message that taking the great pain in obtaining these legal documents are not helping us getting a better treatment by USCIS. This act will perfectly portrey the pain of legal immigrants and once again will attract media and newsprint to keeps us in headlines. This should be part of our demonstrations.
3. Waive American Flags: Please understand that recent media reports that only Indians are responsible for the flower campaign may hurt the campaign in the longer term. Please waive small American flags and show our solidarity with local Americans.
4. Distrubute a flower with a pamphlet to the people passing by at the demonstration site. A well worded paper will be required that can project our problems to the people.
Please share if you come up with innovative ideas to make these rallies a huge success.
With a successful flower campaign to USCIS, we must draw our conclusions from this success, and use the outcome to make the San Jose rally a success.
Please note that legal immigrants is a small handful set of people. Just a usual rally/demonstration will not make a dramatic impact. We have learned from the flower campaign that if we use innovative-peaceful ways of demonstrations, and manage Public Relations and Media well, we can be successful once again.
Please think and try to come up with some ideas. I have come up with these four ideas:
1. Project Martin Luther King Jr. as our hero in these rallies: Please understand that local Amrican people better understand about Martin Luther King Jr. andhis idealogy then M.K. Gandhi. My suggestion is that we should include large picture posters of Martin Luther King Jr. with a slogan "We legals too have a dream". We should also take Gandhi's posters. There is a possibility that all Black American organization may lend their support to us.
2. An act that attracts media attention: Please remember the scene from Gandhi movie when protesters led by Gandhi peacefully burned their resident permits in South Africa. To do something similar and show our symbolic protest against USCIS, we can publically burn a Photocopy of our H1B approvals (I-797). Please note that we are not asking people to burn the original I-797 approval but a photocopy of the document. This will send a message that taking the great pain in obtaining these legal documents are not helping us getting a better treatment by USCIS. This act will perfectly portrey the pain of legal immigrants and once again will attract media and newsprint to keeps us in headlines. This should be part of our demonstrations.
3. Waive American Flags: Please understand that recent media reports that only Indians are responsible for the flower campaign may hurt the campaign in the longer term. Please waive small American flags and show our solidarity with local Americans.
4. Distrubute a flower with a pamphlet to the people passing by at the demonstration site. A well worded paper will be required that can project our problems to the people.
Please share if you come up with innovative ideas to make these rallies a huge success.
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bkam
06-26 12:59 PM
This and many other threads have undoubtedly a huge racist component and we urge the administrators to quickly remove them.
You don't deserve to get a green card!
What is the difference between that anti-mexican speech and Sensenbrener's & Tancredo's theories?:(
We could say" We are not going to worship cows and take ritual baths in dirty rivers..."
Shame on you!
Dear mpkmaster, it is easy to ignore facts and throw stones like "your are rasist". And it is not easy to face the reality. Since you are so smart, I would like to ask you some questions:
1. Why there are long immigration lines in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore etc, and almost none for Mexico, Latin America, Middle East etc. Maybe because these countries a full of "racists" ?
2. Tell me why some some people/countries can manage their economy and become attractive centers for immigration and other are just hell holes. There is a huge difference between Japan, S. Korea, China and N. Korea and they are populated by the same race - what has racism has to do with that ?
3. Why did you immigrate from your own country?
I will tell you one thing - due to my profession I have visited most countries in the world, including India. And definitely have a better understanding what is racism, what is protectionism, what is laziness, stupidity etc. Do not hide all these behind "racism", won't work...
Come on, Admin, delete quickly this "racist" evil message :-)
You don't deserve to get a green card!
What is the difference between that anti-mexican speech and Sensenbrener's & Tancredo's theories?:(
We could say" We are not going to worship cows and take ritual baths in dirty rivers..."
Shame on you!
Dear mpkmaster, it is easy to ignore facts and throw stones like "your are rasist". And it is not easy to face the reality. Since you are so smart, I would like to ask you some questions:
1. Why there are long immigration lines in the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore etc, and almost none for Mexico, Latin America, Middle East etc. Maybe because these countries a full of "racists" ?
2. Tell me why some some people/countries can manage their economy and become attractive centers for immigration and other are just hell holes. There is a huge difference between Japan, S. Korea, China and N. Korea and they are populated by the same race - what has racism has to do with that ?
3. Why did you immigrate from your own country?
I will tell you one thing - due to my profession I have visited most countries in the world, including India. And definitely have a better understanding what is racism, what is protectionism, what is laziness, stupidity etc. Do not hide all these behind "racism", won't work...
Come on, Admin, delete quickly this "racist" evil message :-)
eb3_nepa
05-02 11:33 AM
Ragz thanks for removing the unnecessary quotes :)
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edgarrecto
12-16 09:37 AM
the january 2008 visa bulletin reflects that the eb3 category has a priority date of october 15,2002. are we made to believe that those persons who have priority dates of october 15,2002 and earlier, did not immediately file for adjustment of status but instead they will only file now this coming january 2008? is it believable that there are still applicants who will be filing now this janiuary 2008 even though their priority date is as early as october 15,2002?
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vbkris77
05-08 01:57 PM
You just typed the message in my head.. Can IV Take this as a bullet and campaign saying since it is not clear in law and cfr, Give us the benefit of doubt?
24fps
03-08 11:27 AM
The situation on the ground is this:
L-1 extensions for software related jobs are pretty much now dead. TCS, IBM, etc., are getting denied. USCIS has changed their definition of "specialized knowledge". Now, "specialized knowledge"means no on in USA has that knowledge and cannot obtain that knowledge through training.
Staffing companies; small companies or companies who are h-1b dependent (larger comapnies) are stuck in Vermont Service Center. There are some that aren't having problems but usually it starts with one case stuck in background check; followed by a few approvals; then another one stuck in background check and then all of a sudden all cases are stuck in background check. The scrutiny uscis is giving these types of cases is tremondous and they are denying all of them. Right now; if you monitor the forums you are starting to see the denials. However, vermont service center was sticking cases in background check since fall of 2007. Now; those cases are being worked on and denied. We are just at the beginning of this.
Traditioinal American companies; h-1b and greencard have become toxic and political. Many of them aren't filing greencards for people due to layoffs or too many poeple responding to the advertisements. I haven't seen h-1b issues with them yet. However, if they are not going to do GC then what is the point.
Staffing companies had easiest time filing labors becuse they don't layoff people. However, after Iowa issue now they have started cancelling h-1b's for people on bench, etc. There are so many transfer requests in open market right now; but companies aren't filing because they are getting rid of their own people and it would be foolish to bring on more people in non productive status. However, when they are cancelling h-1b's and sending people back; it is a layoff and that would preclude them from filing greencards.
I do know of one person working at FEDEX as a permanent employee (she has greencard); she told me that FEDEX has taken the detemination that they will not be filing greencards for anyone in the near future. Person can stay until duration of their h-1b but then that will be it.
perm labors used to go through in matter of days. Anything mor then 3 weeks was considered a long time. Now; there is high rate of denials and DOL turning up the scrutiny as to layoffs and general workforce in the place of inteneded employment.
IT IS NOT A FUN TIME FOR ANYONE CONNECTED WITH IMMIGRATION RIGHT NOW.
WOW thats rough! just recently a friend of mine who was on the o-1 visa (in the entertainment industry) applied for an extension as his third year was up, he got rejected!! this is unheard of in the o-1 visa (unless you commit some crime, which this guy never did etc) the o-1 doesn't even have the "displacement of american worker" clause that can be used to reject extensions, and once the "extra-ordinary" ability is proved how does it diminish??
With all this BS going on they might as well shut down immigration for a few years.:confused:
L-1 extensions for software related jobs are pretty much now dead. TCS, IBM, etc., are getting denied. USCIS has changed their definition of "specialized knowledge". Now, "specialized knowledge"means no on in USA has that knowledge and cannot obtain that knowledge through training.
Staffing companies; small companies or companies who are h-1b dependent (larger comapnies) are stuck in Vermont Service Center. There are some that aren't having problems but usually it starts with one case stuck in background check; followed by a few approvals; then another one stuck in background check and then all of a sudden all cases are stuck in background check. The scrutiny uscis is giving these types of cases is tremondous and they are denying all of them. Right now; if you monitor the forums you are starting to see the denials. However, vermont service center was sticking cases in background check since fall of 2007. Now; those cases are being worked on and denied. We are just at the beginning of this.
Traditioinal American companies; h-1b and greencard have become toxic and political. Many of them aren't filing greencards for people due to layoffs or too many poeple responding to the advertisements. I haven't seen h-1b issues with them yet. However, if they are not going to do GC then what is the point.
Staffing companies had easiest time filing labors becuse they don't layoff people. However, after Iowa issue now they have started cancelling h-1b's for people on bench, etc. There are so many transfer requests in open market right now; but companies aren't filing because they are getting rid of their own people and it would be foolish to bring on more people in non productive status. However, when they are cancelling h-1b's and sending people back; it is a layoff and that would preclude them from filing greencards.
I do know of one person working at FEDEX as a permanent employee (she has greencard); she told me that FEDEX has taken the detemination that they will not be filing greencards for anyone in the near future. Person can stay until duration of their h-1b but then that will be it.
perm labors used to go through in matter of days. Anything mor then 3 weeks was considered a long time. Now; there is high rate of denials and DOL turning up the scrutiny as to layoffs and general workforce in the place of inteneded employment.
IT IS NOT A FUN TIME FOR ANYONE CONNECTED WITH IMMIGRATION RIGHT NOW.
WOW thats rough! just recently a friend of mine who was on the o-1 visa (in the entertainment industry) applied for an extension as his third year was up, he got rejected!! this is unheard of in the o-1 visa (unless you commit some crime, which this guy never did etc) the o-1 doesn't even have the "displacement of american worker" clause that can be used to reject extensions, and once the "extra-ordinary" ability is proved how does it diminish??
With all this BS going on they might as well shut down immigration for a few years.:confused:
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belmontboy
07-20 02:43 PM
Guys, Please don't fight.
We cannot get far with this EB2 Vs EB3 fight.
We understand EB3's situation, however pitting one against another will not help.
Sanhari: why not take your efforts one step ahead and work for fixes like visa recapture. That would be permanent solution and doesnot favor any particular group. You will be able to get support of EB2 and EB1 folks.
I know IV core is focusing its efforts on CIR. CIR is dead meat or going to be... considering this, is IV core working on any piecemeal reforms? Can somebody from the IV core comment????
We cannot get far with this EB2 Vs EB3 fight.
We understand EB3's situation, however pitting one against another will not help.
Sanhari: why not take your efforts one step ahead and work for fixes like visa recapture. That would be permanent solution and doesnot favor any particular group. You will be able to get support of EB2 and EB1 folks.
I know IV core is focusing its efforts on CIR. CIR is dead meat or going to be... considering this, is IV core working on any piecemeal reforms? Can somebody from the IV core comment????
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delax
08-20 09:36 AM
FYI - for those approved and waiting for cards in the mail! Here are the details for self, spouse and child - all approved at the same time.
CPO - Email recd on Aug 11 saying CPO on Aug 9.
Aug 12 - Hard LUD saying Welcome Notice Mailed on Aug 12
Aug 13 - Soft LUD
Aug 15 - Hard LUD saying Approval Notice mailed on Aug 14
Aug 18 - Welcome Notice and physical cards received for all of us. No Approval Notice yet! Not sure if I will receive one.
CPO - Email recd on Aug 11 saying CPO on Aug 9.
Aug 12 - Hard LUD saying Welcome Notice Mailed on Aug 12
Aug 13 - Soft LUD
Aug 15 - Hard LUD saying Approval Notice mailed on Aug 14
Aug 18 - Welcome Notice and physical cards received for all of us. No Approval Notice yet! Not sure if I will receive one.
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drona
07-06 07:31 PM
We would all like to part of a rally or protest but why give us only one days notice? Surely most people will not have read this post by tomorrow. We should organize this properly by sending out the message to the community well in advance and getting the required permits (I mean if you want this to be in any way successful that is).
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cjain
11-01 05:20 PM
Gurus, experts, malik log...
Pls. illuminate us on this topic...
Pls. illuminate us on this topic...
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tomytomy111
02-09 01:58 AM
I love my country and want to go back, but it is in the hands of rapists and looters and I suspect it will remain that way...either I become a Gandhi and spend my life liberating it, or live year with my eyes & ears closed...
It is actually funny to watch you guys fight over the US vs India.
Let me ask you this:
-If you didn't choose to study medical or IT and never came to US, would you be thinking the same (problems in India and reasons not to settle in India etc) as you are thinking today?
-If US government didn't have the provision of employment based GC, would you be thinking the same as you are thinking today(problems in India and reasons not to settle in India etc) ?
The answer of the questions above is either YES or NO. I'm sure that many of us will answer these questions as NO.
And if the answer is NO and and you are still counting problems in India and trying to justify your stay in US, then I'm afraid my friends you guys are being opportunistic.
No matter how bad it is, that country made you capable of using this forum. You shouldn't backbite and find problems and issues in that country. You should rather use your energy in solving problems in India. Don't say it is not possible. Nothing is impossible.
You can send emails/letters/flowers to senators and officials here for GC, but I'm sure that there will only be handful of you; who actually tried to send their feedback complaints to Indian government and its officials.
I can go on and on, but I leave this thought with you guys and end my post here, as I know that you got the point.
It is actually funny to watch you guys fight over the US vs India.
Let me ask you this:
-If you didn't choose to study medical or IT and never came to US, would you be thinking the same (problems in India and reasons not to settle in India etc) as you are thinking today?
-If US government didn't have the provision of employment based GC, would you be thinking the same as you are thinking today(problems in India and reasons not to settle in India etc) ?
The answer of the questions above is either YES or NO. I'm sure that many of us will answer these questions as NO.
And if the answer is NO and and you are still counting problems in India and trying to justify your stay in US, then I'm afraid my friends you guys are being opportunistic.
No matter how bad it is, that country made you capable of using this forum. You shouldn't backbite and find problems and issues in that country. You should rather use your energy in solving problems in India. Don't say it is not possible. Nothing is impossible.
You can send emails/letters/flowers to senators and officials here for GC, but I'm sure that there will only be handful of you; who actually tried to send their feedback complaints to Indian government and its officials.
I can go on and on, but I leave this thought with you guys and end my post here, as I know that you got the point.
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drona
08-31 07:45 PM
Have you looked at the status of the rally polls? Are you even aware that we are having a historic first rally for legal immigrants in Washington DC? Please people, get your heads out of the sand and participate in this rally to fix this broken system.
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kshitijnt
05-01 08:03 PM
Lets file a lawsuit to get the info in a manner we need:
1) breakdown of processing dates in a manner that co relates to visa bulletin.
i.e.: tell us how many petitions by per country are pending/processed and processing dates by country and category. Atleast USCIS is answerable to visa bulletin.
2) Visa usage by category reporting each month
(How many petitions were approved are pending by visa category and by country) (here I mean just I140 and I485). Adjust the numbers if there are denials.
This will atleast help everyone predict whats going to happen in recent months. One of the heartburns we have is no information comes out of USCIS and we are held hostage to what oppenheim says or Aytes says or Sheela Murthy says. This is public information so lets try and get it public every month.
1) breakdown of processing dates in a manner that co relates to visa bulletin.
i.e.: tell us how many petitions by per country are pending/processed and processing dates by country and category. Atleast USCIS is answerable to visa bulletin.
2) Visa usage by category reporting each month
(How many petitions were approved are pending by visa category and by country) (here I mean just I140 and I485). Adjust the numbers if there are denials.
This will atleast help everyone predict whats going to happen in recent months. One of the heartburns we have is no information comes out of USCIS and we are held hostage to what oppenheim says or Aytes says or Sheela Murthy says. This is public information so lets try and get it public every month.
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neoneo
05-05 10:57 AM
Well, following the discussion on BS and MS grads and some of the members cribbing why the MS(from US) students get special treatment, here are my 2 cents.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
1) By makng sure that a person is MS they are making sure the population getting greencard is YOUNG !! , it's simple, highly educated "kids" who understand the US culture, since they have studied in US universities and have a whole life ahead of them to do good in Research etc.
Kids gel in fast for e.g if you see a person with BS and MS from the US, his behaviour is attuned to the society as compared to one who just has a MS and a BS from India.
2) On the other hand someone who has a MTech or worked 10 years in India, chances are these guys are already in their late 30's or 40's, so they are not getting the youth in, or a person who will take a lot more time to gel in the soceity as compared to the student.
3) Most importantly, they can't trust people whose degrees are not from the US. Their quality of education, their authenticity. Also, I think the quality of top 100 US univs, which most indians come to anyway, is much better than most of Indian Univs for MS. The kind of infrastructure and teaching they are exposed to is tremendous.
PS: Someone mentioned that PhD's get paid for reseach. Doing researrch is extremely demanding. I would rate it twice as demanding as a regular job! and the amount the students get is peanuts! Like ~$1500 a month for working ~ 60 hrs a week in research is hell !!
Unfortunately, in doing this you may loose some really good candidates, who may not have a US degree, but thats the price you pay "to be safe than sorry"
I think, this should help people who were complaining about this difference better understand that even though they have better profile, it's from a different country and it becomes difficult to verify that.
but, MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's in everyones( BS MS,H1,F1 ..) interest IRRESPECTIVE of the CIS or any other bill going through, the SKIL bill should make it to the floor.
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anzerraja
07-20 12:56 AM
hmehta Thanks Very much !!!
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gsc999
07-09 01:01 PM
Please do not start new additional threads regarding the flowers campaign. It dilutes the focus and creates confusion, at least for me.:confused:
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sankap
07-10 12:45 AM
@desi3933:
This comment was then obviously was not directed to you but to others who advise to "file AC21." Please show me any of my post where I have advised people to file for AC-21.
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This comment was then obviously was not directed to you but to others who advise to "file AC21." Please show me any of my post where I have advised people to file for AC-21.
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svgupta
05-23 11:43 AM
to everyone on the list.
Folks! who are still procrastinating .. plz DO send the mail right away. It won't matter if you do it later.
And sure, you can always think others are anyways, doing it... that should be enough. It won't be... Go ahead and send mails... (ref: 1st page of this thread).
GO IV!
Folks! who are still procrastinating .. plz DO send the mail right away. It won't matter if you do it later.
And sure, you can always think others are anyways, doing it... that should be enough. It won't be... Go ahead and send mails... (ref: 1st page of this thread).
GO IV!
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mallu
12-16 08:18 PM
I consider the 30-40 range 'golden' years . Enough experience to handle various things without much botheration of senility. Depression is not continuous, but comes once in a while. Currently i am optimistic that India EB2 will move forward starting Oct.2008 and my PD of Nov.2002 will become current some time in 2009 and i will be inching to 10 years of SSN eligibility.
I also have following kind of worries too, which haunt me often.
Being the 'only son' there is a big emotional pull from the parents to take care of them. But am worried about 'transporting' the American citizen kid back to India ( like them adjusting to the culture there ). Now my batch mates who got GC ( because they came early to USA and got lucky. One India EB2 friend - applied PERM in 2005 & I-485 in 2005 - got his GC in Aug 2007 ! ) , aiming for citizenship , then they want to move to India and plan to bring up kids there. And when they are 'ripe' for higher studies, march back to USA.
I also have following kind of worries too, which haunt me often.
Being the 'only son' there is a big emotional pull from the parents to take care of them. But am worried about 'transporting' the American citizen kid back to India ( like them adjusting to the culture there ). Now my batch mates who got GC ( because they came early to USA and got lucky. One India EB2 friend - applied PERM in 2005 & I-485 in 2005 - got his GC in Aug 2007 ! ) , aiming for citizenship , then they want to move to India and plan to bring up kids there. And when they are 'ripe' for higher studies, march back to USA.
whyregisteration
12-13 02:54 PM
one can call if FP notice has not got yet. But nothing useful for me (July 3rd filler), recently I received one mail: '.. still within our processing time ...', still no FP:eek:
vallabhu
07-20 10:17 AM
I pledge 200 for Aman.
and also increase my monthly contribution from 20$ to 50$.
and also increase my monthly contribution from 20$ to 50$.
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